Since the Thread gone a bit off topic during the last page, I like to repost some stuff here:

Oracle

The old concept was better. Don't get me wrong, I love pooping blaster hulls with 1200+ DPS during her endless crusade to get into a range they never reach. However this is simply over the top, for a mobile hull like the Oracle. Hitting anti support at 50km isn't so hard anyway. You not going to prevent this in a big fight, and it is rather moot point outside of this for a fleet ship like the Oracle. Give it back it's range + tracking bonus(buff the cap a bit to compensate for the lack of the 2. cap use bonus) and make it a notch faster so you end up with a faster Apoc/long range Harbinger instead of a Abaddon that also can control the engagement range(what makes it extreme powerful) and is fairly cap stable in practical game play.

Naga

I'm still waiting for a change. With torps it is nearly useful, however it still lacks the higher velocity bonus to bump up the range a bit so it can compete with other tier 3 BC short range weapon setups(except the Talos) and a explosion velocity bonus to bring it down to 337.5m. You still have damage reduction by speed and sig for most BCs. BC and BS are the most common fleet ships today for DPS. If you want a torp naga on the field it must be able to project solid damage against them(w/o throwing 1-2 painter, a scram and a web on every target you shoot, it isn't this good dps wise to justify this).

The slot and fitting nerf was uncalled for. I'm still looking for a update on the speed penalty for javelin torpedo's.

Tornado

It is over the top with the the best mix of tank and gank mounted on the fastest hull of the tier3(by quite some margin), if you insist to keep the falloff bonus, reduce the turret count or remove a low slot to bring the overall damage down a notch.

Talos

Add a 5. med(and some fitting to use the slot, overall it is very short on CPU for a shieldtank) and buff the tracking bonus to 10% per level to make it a halve way ok rail ship for medium ranges, that can at least compete against beam fittings w/o the damage bonus or puls setups with scorch(it is to far off with the tracking atm and lacks the 5. med for a reasonable tank).

In my opinion, ships will never always be used for their determined roles. At the end of the day we will still see the these battlecruisers ripping apart ships smaller ships than just battleships. Honestly, I can't argue the removal of the web bonus on the talos, it would have been fun and useful and I was a little deflated to see its removal but, it would have made killing small ships incredibly easy and in fact TOO easy. The drone bay, in my opinion, should not be removed from the talos, but this would increase its ability to fight smaller ships so it's been removed. My suggestion, though I will probably get chased off this thread with a shotgun on this suggestion but I'm going for it anyway, we give the talos a fighter. Yes, I said it, a single fighter without to ability to replace it with a bunch of small drones. Much like the fighter bay on the mom nerf coming up. 5 hobs without ship boosts do almost exactly the same as a single fireblog (about 100dps). This would allow the talos to put some dps on the floor outside it's gun range yet keep it away from smaller ships, I like the sound of it, just time to do some research now...

10 minutes later after some research: There are several problems with this suggestion I will say from the start, this bay would be useless to new players as they wouldn't have the skills for fighters. Not to mention that the fighter would cost about 1/3 the price of the ship once prices settle down. It's a good idea in concept but in the reality of TQ it wouldn't work. I don't know where to find any common ground to make this work other than the fighter being part of the ship and you miracusly get new one when you dock, not to mention a reduced skill requirement for new players.

I'm open to suggestions and this entire post is speculation so do please take a minute or two and give it some thought before trolling me right off this thread. Thanks for reading!

Sorry if this post is 100% geared toward gallente, it's all I ever fly. Many people may have no love for gallente but it's what I fly and I like it.

I can't wait to see the troll posts in reply to this, sigh.

After sleeping on it, I confirm my thoughts: keep the 8 launchers and the fitting bonus, then the naga is cool.

All other caldari hybrid ships have a mixed weapons option, keep it on the naga too!

Keep the Naga as is, just add two bonuses for torps and missile hardpoints.



Problem solved.

Keep the Naga hybrid bonuses and just add two torp bonuses.


Problem solved.